Time, space, the triple axis and nothingness

Frederic says he can imagine the absence of time, or everything happening at once, but finds space far more prevalent and cannot conceive of no space.

The Wonders question whether he can truly imagine no time, and point out that his mind is attached to time and space as linear and interdependent - the subject matter of quantum physics - so that even reconceiving time as elliptical does not alter the relationship to space, whose structure seems to remain.

They propose instead taking the triple axis of width, length and height and removing those concepts, which leaves something spacious that is not space itself; from there one can observe that existence can move through spaciousness without being defined by the limits of the triple axis.

Frederic asks whether this explains why focusing on something very small sends him to somewhere very large, and they confirm it, while noting that his mind moves inward and creates spaciousness still built on the triple axis, which is exactly what he has trouble getting beyond.

Their suggestion is that in meditation he simply ask what existence would be without the triple axis, without defining or forcing an answer, and see what occurs - he may arrive at a new and broader understanding of space, then eventually find that understanding limiting too and see beyond it, until reaching the realization that nothingness allows everything, a concept the mind finds hard to accept.

Frederic says nothingness has always fascinated him, and they urge him to keep exploring, since the only way to help the mind detach from its limitations is to explore beyond them.

In the post-session reflection the channel notes that even looking at air or empty space, the mind still contains it within length, width and height and insists on infusing limits despite knowing the concept of limitlessness; removing that relationship leaves nothing, raising the question of how to define, express or explore that nothing - conversations he says he had with himself 20 and 30 years ago and now finds comparatively uninteresting.